Do I Need To Use Electronic Dry Cabinet To Store My Camera
Are Dry Cabinets Necessary?
I just came across these Dehumidifying Dry Cabinets because I was looking for a way to store time to come lenses since I accept nowhere else to put them, but are they necessary? I but constitute 2 brands, Ruggard and Forspark. Which ane is better? I was leaning towards Ruggard considering B&H sells them while Forspark I found on Amazon...
Would it be a good investment? Gimmick? Idk... requite me your opinions or experiences. I don't alive in a specially humid area (I don't recall?) only it does tend to pelting a lot and so... maybe information technology is humid and I don't discover it...
How do y'all neatly and tidily shop your lenses away (protecting from dust and so on) if not in your camera bag?
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alcelc • Forum Pro • Posts: 17,112
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maxthedry wrote:
I merely came across these Dehumidifying Dry Cabinets because I was looking for a mode to store future lenses since I have nowhere else to put them, but are they necessary? I only constitute two brands, Ruggard and Forspark. Which ane is better? I was leaning towards Ruggard considering B&H sells them while Forspark I found on Amazon...
I have one a few years already. I utilize the Taiwanese make Eureka (https://www.eurekadrytech.com/products/auto-dry-box).
I am living in Hong Kong where was flooded with many brands in various price tag. Virtually are M.I.C. products. I take more than confidence on this longer history make and so far have no prophylactic business organisation at all (it is a 24/7/365 powered electric product!).
Would it be a skillful investment? Gimmick? Idk... requite me your opinions or experiences. I don't live in a especially boiling surface area (I don't call up?) only it does tend to rain a lot so... maybe it is humid and I don't notice it...
If you are living in a humid region, yous need something to keep your gear dry out otherwise fungus would abound. For digital cameras, it might be higher hazard to lens (the coating) than the photographic camera body (I had a very old, neglected film slr that had fungus on the mirror, on the prism glass, the material shutter pall and fifty-fifty the interior coating (mounted with black velvet textile?)...).
There could be many means from using the bones airtight box plus desiccant (e.g. silica gel) upwardly to those machine dry out cabinet.
If you are living in a dry region having RH <xl% all twelvemonth round, the risk is very small.
Or from my experience on living in London, the indoor central heating keep the room dry and when it is warm, RH is not high such that I could just continue my gear inside usual cupboard.
How practise you neatly and tidily store your lenses away (protecting from dust and and then on) if not in your camera bag?
For gear I am not planning to utilize for a while, shall dry and clean them. Put on the front and back cap and keep in the auto dry cabinet.
Before that, I put them each in an closed nutrient pocketbook, sealed with air squeezed out and put a few small bags of silica gel inside. A few numberless of lens volition exist and so stored inside an airtight box stuffed with more bags of silica gel. Doing so I can make sure the other lenses will not be affected during opening the box to take out a lens. The boxes would be stored in my bookshelf with door. The silica gel will exist checked every six~8 months and supplant them if needed.
Except 1~2 lenses suffered from mucus in my very early days few decades ago, all of my gear are fine.
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Smith-64 • Regular Member • Posts: 347
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Really depends on where you alive. I live in a house which is heated in the wintertime and airconditioned in the summertime in the Midwest United states and keep my cameras on the main flooring. I can keep my equipment in my camera bags with no upshot. My basement would potentially be a different story as information technology is colder winter and summertime hence college relative humidity although I run a dehumidifier year round. No camera equipment stored there but electronics haven't had a consequence.
Living in a coastal region might cause me to change my practices only that would really depend the HVAC systems installed in the house.
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OP maxthedry • Forum Member • Posts: 55
Re: Are Dry Cabinets Necessary?
alcelc wrote:
maxthedry wrote:
I just came across these Dehumidifying Dry Cabinets because I was looking for a mode to shop future lenses since I have nowhere else to put them, but are they necessary? I only establish 2 brands, Ruggard and Forspark. Which one is ameliorate? I was leaning towards Ruggard because B&H sells them while Forspark I establish on Amazon...
I have one a few years already. I use the Taiwanese brand Eureka (https://www.eurekadrytech.com/products/motorcar-dry-box).
I am living in Hong Kong where was flooded with many brands in diverse price tag. Most are One thousand.I.C. products. I have more than confidence on this longer history brand so far have no condom concern at all (it is a 24/7/365 powered electric production!).
Would information technology exist a good investment? Gimmick? Idk... give me your opinions or experiences. I don't live in a especially boiling area (I don't think?) but it does tend to pelting a lot and then... perhaps information technology is humid and I don't observe information technology...
If you are living in a boiling region, you need something to keep your gear dry otherwise fungus would abound. For digital cameras, it might be higher risk to lens (the coating) than the camera body (I had a very old, neglected motion picture slr that had fungus on the mirror, on the prism glass, the fabric shutter curtain and even the interior coating (mounted with black velvet fabric?)...).
There could be many ways from using the basic airtight box plus desiccant (e.yard. silica gel) up to those car dry out cabinet.
If you lot are living in a dry region having RH <40% all year round, the take chances is very small.
Or from my experience on living in London, the indoor central heating keep the room dry and when it is warm, RH is not high such that I could just proceed my gear inside usual cupboard.
How do you neatly and tidily store your lenses away (protecting from grit and and so on) if not in your photographic camera pocketbook?
For gear I am not planning to utilise for a while, shall dry and clean them. Put on the front and back cap and go on in the car dry out cabinet.
Before that, I put them each in an airtight food bag, sealed with air squeezed out and put a few small bags of silica gel inside. A few numberless of lens volition exist and then stored inside an airtight box blimp with more bags of silica gel. Doing then I can brand certain the other lenses will not be afflicted during opening the box to take out a lens. The boxes would exist stored in my bookshelf with door. The silica gel volition exist checked every 6~viii months and supplant them if needed.
Except one~two lenses suffered from fungus in my very early on days few decades ago, all of my gear are fine.
Cheers a lot for all the info and your personal feel! Wow sounds like a lot to go on runway of with the silica gels and closed numberless for each lenses in an airtight box! If annihilation, I think the dry box would be a prissy investment just to keep my gear organized and displayed nicely LOL
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Smith-64 wrote:
Really depends on where you lot live. I live in a firm which is heated in the wintertime and airconditioned in the summertime in the Midwest US and keep my cameras on the main flooring. I can keep my equipment in my camera bags with no result. My basement would potentially be a different story as it is colder wintertime and summertime hence higher relative humidity although I run a dehumidifier yr round. No photographic camera equipment stored there only electronics haven't had a issue.
Living in a littoral region might cause me to alter my practices only that would really depend the HVAC systems installed in the house.
A. C.
I take heating during winter, only no air conditioning during summer and live adjacent to the sea
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Where I live the average relative humidity is 76%. I own six dry cabinets in which I store all my camera equipment, various items of wearable, valuable books, and even various food items, such as open packets of crispbread. If I didn't employ these cabinets, I'd accept had major bug with mould and fungus in my lenses by now (along with soft crispbread!).
I've not heard of the brands you mentioned — only I may be on the other side of the world.
At that place is a cheaper DIY selection, with silica gel, just with cabinets y'all tin can set and forget, and they employ hardly any power.
Whether you demand them depends on your climate. Practice some inquiry and/or buy a hygrometer. Conduct in mind too that humidity can be quite unlike indoors and out. Mould and fungus can't form beneath about seventy% RH. If your humidity rarely goes above this for extended periods, you don't demand them.
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Smith-64 • Regular Member • Posts: 347
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Sounds like you demand some kind of dry box. Here are a couple of links to other recent threads on this same topic.
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Roger99 • Forum Pro • Posts: 11,572
It would depend...
...on the climate your gear is normally stored in. Practise you accept bug in storage with highish humidity? If non at that place should be no real trouble. And then again if you accept a huge investment in lenses it couldn't hurt. I find a good check of my lenses at least twice a yr has served me well an I adopt to keep them right abroad from any lenses with an infection. I also store my lenses and gear in private plastic bags with silica-gel sachets just out of addiction so that might be all that is needed in moderate situations like yours and mine.
This question has come upwards quite a bit around here. I'm sort of thinking of designing a humidity level logging device to cheque for such problems. Don't know why I haven't knocked one out earlier really. It could be done fairly reliably and simply. If anyone hither knows the temperature and humidity levels conducive to glass fungal growth that would be handy information.
maxthedry wrote:
I simply came across these Dehumidifying Dry Cabinets because I was looking for a manner to store future lenses since I take nowhere else to put them, just are they necessary? I only found two brands, Ruggard and Forspark. Which 1 is better? I was leaning towards Ruggard considering B&H sells them while Forspark I found on Amazon...
Would it exist a good investment? Gimmick? Idk... give me your opinions or experiences. I don't live in a particularly humid surface area (I don't call up?) merely it does tend to pelting a lot and then... maybe it is boiling and I don't notice it...
How do you neatly and tidily store your lenses away (protecting from grit and and so on) if not in your camera bag?
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If anyone here knows the temperature and humidity levels conducive to glass fungal growth that would be handy information.
See my post, above.
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Re: Are Dry out Cabinets Necessary?
Not for me—in the US Midwest. Fundamental A/C in the summer, forced air estrus in Winter. I do employ silica desiccant. You can detect very affordable packs of various sizes online (that businesses employ in packing). These tin can exist recharged in the oven, too, and many are food-safe. So I utilise them in salt and sugar shakers.
Whenever my gear gets wet(or boiling), I allow it dry indoors and the place in handbag with a few desiccant packs. Same for storage.
I doubtable that the cabinets are only necessary in very humid climates or maybe for pros/businesses with a lot of very expensive gear that is used in crude conditions.
Re: Are Dry Cabinets Necessary?
maxthedry wrote:
I but came across these Dehumidifying Dry Cabinets because I was looking for a way to store hereafter lenses since I accept nowhere else to put them, but are they necessary? I simply found two brands, Ruggard and Forspark. Which 1 is ameliorate? I was leaning towards Ruggard because B&H sells them while Forspark I found on Amazon...
Would it be a good investment? Gimmick? Idk... give me your opinions or experiences. I don't alive in a peculiarly boiling area (I don't call up?) just it does tend to rain a lot so... maybe it is humid and I don't notice it...
How do you neatly and tidily store your lenses away (protecting from dust and so on) if non in your photographic camera bag?
In dry areas they offer no real reward. In more than humid places they can be a benefit, but y'all tin certainly practise without by using airtight boxes & suitably maintained desiccants.
The problem with the desiccant approach is information technology's easy to forget to reactivate the desiccant. Many people assume if they stick silica gel in the box/bag information technology will proceed it dry forever, but silica gel has a limit to how much water information technology can absorb. With a reasonably sized silica gel pack dried regularly in the oven (a couple of hours at 150C) tin can work wonders. Caution many silica gel packs utilise hot melt glue that volition come unstuck at the temperatures needed to recondition them...
FWIW you can go some very cheap humidity indicating cards. It'southward worth keeping these with your lenses to remind you to recharge the desiccant or just to check how high the humidity in your surface area actually is.
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maxthedry wrote:
Smith-64 wrote:
Really depends on where you lot live. I live in a house which is heated in the wintertime and airconditioned in the summertime in the Midwest U.s. and keep my cameras on the principal floor. I tin proceed my equipment in my camera bags with no outcome. My basement would potentially be a different story as information technology is colder winter and summer hence higher relative humidity although I run a dehumidifier year round. No photographic camera equipment stored there just electronics haven't had a issue.
Living in a littoral region might crusade me to change my practices simply that would really depend the HVAC systems installed in the house.
A. C.
I accept heating during wintertime, but no air workout during summer and live next to the sea
I am the reverse. I have the opposite of a dry box for my cigars. MN winters the humidity is frequently around 20%.
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Roger99 • Forum Pro • Posts: 11,572
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Where I live the average relative humidity is 76%. I ain half-dozen dry cabinets in which I store all my photographic camera equipment, various items of wear, valuable books, and fifty-fifty various food items, such as open packets of crispbread. If I didn't use these cabinets, I'd have had major problems with mould and fungus in my lenses past now (forth with soft crispbread!).
I've not heard of the brands you mentioned — but I may be on the other side of the world.
At that place is a cheaper DIY option, with silica gel, but with cabinets you tin can set and forget, and they employ hardly whatsoever ability.
Whether y'all need them depends on your climate. Exercise some research and/or purchase a hygrometer. Bear in listen besides that humidity can exist quite different indoors and out. Mould and fungus can't form below well-nigh 70% RH. If your humidity rarely goes above this for extended periods, you don't need them.
Excellent. All I needed was a starting point. What percentage of time would RH demand to exceed 70% would yous think? I'd suppose that it would need to sit there for a couple of weeks to get things going. Information technology could be kind of academic in my case though. We seem to peak at about 68% near of the fourth dimension around this time of year although setting upwardly a logging device would yet be useful for traveling cases.
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Re: Are Dry out Cabinets Necessary?
Roger99 wrote:
What percentage of time would RH need to exceed seventy% would you remember? I'd suppose that it would need to sit there for a couple of weeks to become things going.
I'd only be guessing. Plain information technology won't happen in five minutes, but when we kickoff talking weeks the chance is certainly in that location.
Another culling is a dry box like this ...
In addition to my six cabinets, I accept one of these. You need to recharge the "brick" past plugging into an Ac outlet every few months if it's non opened, more than oftentimes if it is.
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Living on a river in the jungles of Thailand
a dry out box is a must accept and I have two.
All gear is e'er wiped clean and so stored
in a dry box upon my return home from
shooting every-other day in a brutal an
unforgiving triple canopy environment.
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Roger99 • Forum Pro • Posts: 11,572
Re: Are Dry Cabinets Necessary?
Graham Meale wrote:
Roger99 wrote:
What percent of time would RH demand to exceed 70% would yous think? I'd suppose that it would need to sit there for a couple of weeks to get things going.
I'd just be guessing. Evidently it won't happen in 5 minutes, but when we kickoff talking weeks the gamble is certainly in that location.
In the by when traveling interstate by car I use an Esky with a dozen or so silica gel packs in it for similar results to a dry out box I'd imagine. I'm thinking in terms of constant home storage and cheaply monitoring humidity levels to determine necessary protection strategies. I effigy I should be able to set upwardly a suitably authentic logging monitor for about 30 dollars or so and work out further expense from at that place. Of class I haven't had any issues for most of my life in this region but I take been seeing more and more fungal lenses locally in the past few years and climate is shifting. Time to baton down the hatches.
Another culling is a dry box like this ...
In addition to my six cabinets, I have one of these. You need to recharge the "brick" by plugging into an AC outlet every few months if information technology's not opened, more ofttimes if it is.
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I certain hope non.
I've been shooting for decades and never used ane.
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alcelc • Forum Pro • Posts: 17,112
Re: Are Dry Cabinets Necessary?
It could depend on where y'all alive.
I read from a fellow member who lives in hot desert region and when the gear become wet, only put information technology on desert floor can dry out it up nicely. On the aforementioned thread some suggestions fifty-fifty to put the gear into an oven for similar effect...
If yous demand a dehumidifier 24 a day at your dwelling house, you would consider a dry out box would exist needed.
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Re: Are Dry Cabinets Necessary?
alcelc wrote:
It could depend on where y'all live.
I read from a member who lives in hot desert region and when the gear get moisture, just put it on desert floor can dry it upwards nicely. On the same thread some suggestions even to put the gear into an oven for similar effect...
If you need a dehumidifier 24 a day at your abode, you would consider a dry box would exist needed.
Not so much could every bit WILL.
In the tropics mold is a serious issue. In dry locations it won't exist relevant.
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I alive about the beach so for me it's a must. But that's too expensive so I bought this one and put it in a very pocket-size room. That worked for me.
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